All this talk of Freshers week has dredged up a few things in my head. Mainly my thoughts have turned to just how ridiculously young I was when I left home. I was seventeen. Not that young you think? No? Well, I was younger than today’s seventeen year olds precisely because of these two facts:
Fact One: I was seventeen in the Eighties,
Fact Two: I was seventeen in a small country village.
I knew nothing of the world. I particularly did not know gay. Gay wasn’t a thing. Not in my little corner of existence. Or if it was it was John Inman or Larry Grayson. Or maybe that bloke out of Give Us a Clue. I dunno, I never, in all honesty, ever really thought about it. Except to defend the honour of Nick Rhodes, keyboard player of Duran Duran, when my brother would bait me by questioning his sexual orientation. For Nick and I were to be married and I would not hear malicious gossip about my intended.
I was one of those folk who thought that Boy George was a girl for a good few weeks before someone had to tell me.* And although the eighties was all about that whole gender bending thing, I never really sat down and thought it had much to do with bottoms. Yes, we had Frankie Goes to Hollywood, but that theatrical gay stuff all seemed so far removed from my life. Yes, I knew what gay was, but it all seemed to happen somewhere else. In leather. And with make-up. In Liverpool mostly. (Girl gayness didn’t really occur until there was a storyline in Brookside. Again, Liverpool: None of my business).

Goings on in Liverpool: none of my business**
I was not and never have been homophobic. But I was homo-clueless. I was gayblivious.
If I did know anyone who was gay, it wasn’t apparent. Turns out quite a few folk I knew at school are gay. In fact, one lad I actually kind of went out with once or twice is now gay. He maybe turned after going out with me. Who knows? Gay men, think of him as my gift to you. He was quite the looker. Ah isn’t it always the way? Not that I would have known that then.
So, off I went to Uni with my twee country ways and my lack of knowledge of anything other than German verb conjugation and the history of the chart positions of Depeche Mode. I roomed with a similarly clueless country lass, who is still my buddy (and who appeared on the Misssives, much to my delight, to comment on the last post). This fellow country wench relied on her older sister, who was two years ahead of us in Uni, to give us the heads up on what was cool and what was not. A mistake, as it turned out. For she was evil.
Two weeks into our time together, we asked the aforementioned sister for advice on where to go in Glasgow of an evening for a night out. Our first trip out of University-land into actual Glasgow. The unsaid, but quite apparent, undertone to our request was that there must be a chance of meeting fit blokes. For although clueless, we were, after all, still seventeen.
And did the besom not send us directly to Glasgow’s Premier Gay Nightclub?
Yes she did.
And did she mention that her recommendation was in fact, Glasgow’s Premier Gay Nightclub?
No, she flippin’ well didn’t.
*****
Next part in the story here.
*Right, hands up the blokes who saw George on telly that first time and thought he was a bit of alright? C’mon, every lad did. You all thought he was a girlie! Fess up!
**Yes, that's Anna Friel. She's dead famous now.


35 comments:
Heh heh. I think I might be related to your pal's sister in some way. For I was the junior assistant solicitor at my first real job that suggested to the (all white, Edinburgh, middle-class) partners that since they were going to London to do some client entertaining, they should take said clients to Madame Jojo's. Yeah the kitschy cabaret club where all the glamourous scantily-clad waitresses had adam's apples. I think they had a good time, too.
Loth: But they sounded like men. I was a wee lassie. Look at me! Look at me in that photo!!!! For the ,love of all that is innocent!!
Hey,
came to you via black box and so glad I found you
Also from Glasgow, spent a lot of my student years in Bennetts !!!
and the ring tone on my phone...
Electric 6 - Girl I wanna take you to a gay bar !
Gwen: Hello and Welcome! What a coincidence! Blimey! You hit the name of the club on the nose. Is it still going? I remember that on a Tuesday night it was Student night. But we didn't get sent there on a Tues. Crucial to the next installment , that. Crucial.
Bennetts was well known as being the Gay bar when I started frequenting Glasgow in the Late Eighties/Early Nineties. I believe it was under Queen Street Station, a very apt place. You'd be better asking Inchy for directions.
It's a different bar there now, and I've never been in it despite passing it plenty of times, just in case it may have changed in name but not in nature.
Jaggy: I think it was /is in Glassford Street which is diagonally across from Queen Street. There's nothing wrong in a straight person going into a gay bar, as long as they know it's a gay bar. But I don't want to get ahead of myself....
And just googled Bennetts- it's alive and kicking. Maybe you and Inchy could go and check it out for me and report back.
Do men still pretend to be gay to pull women or does that trick no longer work?
Misssy: I've more than once barked up the wrong tree, but I've been out of the game for some time so I'd have to take advisement. I'm a sucker for a clean fingernail, what can I say?
Boy George is a man?!
No way!
Re: Bennetts
Jaggy would self destruct before you got him through the front door, he'd be like Nosferatu on a sun bed.
It's so much fun to visit you. I'm in the states, Portland, Oregon to be exact, and I learn so much from you!!!
(Found you via the Black Box)
I’m so looking forward to your gay bar story. A whole bunch of us, when we were very young (and also from a hick town) decided to go to the big city one night to go to a gay bar. We all marched in full of excitement and giggles and pretended we were gay by dancing with each other in girl-girl, boy-boy fashion, whilst trying not to stare too hard at the actual gay people. We thought we were terribly cool and sophisticated. I don’t think anyone actually believed we were gay. We were so stupid.
Hi there. Came via Black Box - nice to meet you. Will be back to discover rest of story.
Here via BB. Have to say, I was a child in the 80's, and wondered why my mother had such a flustered reaction when I told her I was going to grow up to marry Boy George. It took me a bit to catch on.
Inchy: Seriously I'm writing up that TV proposal for a sitcom called Inchy and Jaggy. I am. You can share a bed like Morcambe and Wise.
Ann: Hello and Welcome to the Misssives. I can't imagine the cultural confusion that I must be causing. Still other American readers have stuck around, bizarrely. I hope you'll come back!
XUP: "Idiots" sums up our one too.
Brown Dog: Hello and Welcome to the Misssives. Black box took you here, but I hope the posts will bring you back.
Jennifer: Hello and Welcome to the Misssives. Rest assured you weren't the only one. But man, look at him now. Eeww!
I shit you not, Misssy, but if that ever makes it to air, I'll head up north and hunt you down like the Beast of Bodwin Moor.
I found you through the little black box. Great blog! I love the 80's hairdo, btw!
I feel so stupid. I didn't realize that Frankie Goes to Hollywood was a gay band until you just said that.
Misssy: My old man was a spitting image of Eric Morecambe, the big black rimmed glasses and thinning hair and everything. I can only look forward to looking like that when I'm older.
Jaggy, it's a bit late for that, you're already the spitting image of Les Dawson, but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Inchy, at least you have the John Inman and Graham Norton bases covered.
Touche.
HAHAHAHA! I think you look stunning! 80's hair style and all! :-)
It's so crazy that your date of birth is written in pen!!! Wow how things have changed!!! heehee xx
Kirsten: Hello and welcome to the Misssives. There are clues. If you look for them!
Inchy and Jaggy: This thing is writing itself!
Giggles: If you look closely it appears to have been written with a quill!
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Boy George is a dead ringer for a girl who I knew. I saw her a few weeks ago for the first time in about 20 years and thought Gawd! Boy George must look like that now.
She was looking at me & thinking 'fat bastard!'
We both smiled and said 'how are you ? you're looking well!'
Oh hello! I've decided to read you by the way. Hope all is fab, and stuff.
The first time I saw Boy George on TOTP, I thought, "Why is that girl miming to a man singing?"
Or was it vice versa?
*reads footnote and rest of post*
Well, she was quite good looking.
I've created my version of a blog award.
Come by and see!
Juliet: I will proudly display it. And for my shortest post ever(Monkey Justice). Maybe I should be concise more often! Thank you very much, particularly for the nice comment about Indy.
Big Rab: Haha! We just do that don't we? Poor lassie though, dead ringer for George? At least she's not a dead ringer for Pete Burns of Dead or Alive though.
Planet me: Hello and Welcome to the Misssives. All IS well and intermittently fab, thank you for asking. Glad you're here. If you scroll down to a post called Kick your Blogroll up the Arse, it will explain how I came to your blog.
For everyone else, Planet Me here's the 3rd person in my Blogroll kicking challenge to appear on the Misssives. Still reading all four new blogs, religiously. How are you all doing with yours. Hmm? Hmmm????
Mr F: it takes a man of great distinction to admit the truth and I love you all the more for that.
Ann: A great idea and an honour to be included. Ann's done a video blogroll, everyone- coming to all blogs soon, I'll bet. But you were the first! Thank you.
God, that Brookside kiss. I remember my boyfriend at that time and his flatmates being obsessed with it. They taped the omnibus, and replayed it again and again until I ended up seriously falling out with all of them. Boys!
Hi! Ah, reciprocity... thanks for the kinds words, glad you enjoyed my Hollywood Blvd. story.
Glad I came by, your stories are quite entertaining. Regarding your ending of the gay bar one, perhaps because of where I've lived, there was no doubt about Boy George.
Hehe, great. Mate of mine frequented Bennets (and Penelopes??) in the early 2000s. Often invited me to go but I never took him up on the offer.
The Brookside scene was the first that I'd seen Anna Friel, watching specifically for that scene(hey I was a 14-15 yo boy!) and it cemented her position on the list immediately. I'm still a fan!
PS, nice adsense on this post! ;oP
Well Misssy, there is a little party I put on called Virtual Girls Night Out. It's happening now. You're invited!!!
Please visit.
Cat: I wonder if it's on Youtube- I bet it's very tame by today's standards. Still a TV landmark, that one. Ahhh ,I used to love Brookside, then it went all shit.
Bill: Hello and welcome to the Misssives. "Quite"...hmmm. Note to self: must try harder!
BTK: The ads that come up always make me laugh. After the Rat temple post I had pet shop ads for weeks, even though I was advocating punting the flea-ridden buggers to the heavens.
Ann: You're a busy bee aren't you?
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